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Murray’s Fly Shop Quick Fly Fishing Tip: Loop to Loop Connections

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Murray’s Fly Shop Quick Fly Fishing Tip: Loop to Loop Connections – Loop to loop connections are a standard affair in today’s fly fishing arena.  Many fly lines come with loops pre made in the end to ease attaching your fly fishing leader.  Love loop to loop connections or hate loop to loop connections, there is a time and place for just about everything.  When that time arises in your fly fishing, you need to make sure you connect your loop to loop correctly.  Learn to tie the Double Surgeons Loop in this Quick Tip Video.

Fly Line Leader Connection – Needle Knot

Fly Line Leader Connection – Needle Knot.  We will cover the Needle Knot here for the line- leader connection.  I personally prefer for my fly line leader connection to be a Needle Knot as opposed to the Loop to Loop (either manufacturers or home made) connection because it is a smoother, lower profile connection.  Both connections are quite strong and provide very similar results when the line and leader are matched correctly.  The classic example where the Needle Knot shines over a loop to loop connection is when you are landing a large fish which requires the line-leader connection to enter the tip top guide on your fly rod.  I have witnessed many lost fish and even broken fly rods on several occasions because the “loop to loop” connection became hung up on the tip top when a fish decided to make another run after the angler thought he/she could land the fish.
To tie the Needle Knot you will need to cut the existing loop off of your fly line if one is present.

Step 1
Tools needed for the Needle Knot
Tools needed: One large eyed needle for the nail knot, one small eyed needle for pulling the leader through the fly line core, sharp razor blade, pliers, leader and fly line.

Step 2
Shaving down the butt of the leader so it fits in the needle.
Shave down the butt of your leader (approximately 1/2 to 1″ long) with the razor blade. Â The butt of the leader needs to be small enough to fit through the eye of your small needle.

Step 3
Insert the needle into the core of the fly line.
Insert your small needle into the core of the fly line and out the side. Â I like to run the needle out of the core of the fly line approximately 1/4″ from the end.

Step 4
Place the Leader Butt into the needle and pull it through the core of the line.
Place your leader in the eye of the needle and pull it through the core of the fly line.

Step 5
Pull the needle/ leader butt through the line.
Once you have pulled the leader through the core of the fly line, snip the shaved part of the leader off.

Step 6
Tie a Nail Knot around the fly line with the butt of the leader
Nail Knot: At this time, you will tie a nail knot to finish your connection.  Place your large needle beside your fly line and wrap the butt of the leader around the needle five times. Once this is completed, run the butt of the leader through the eye of the needle.  Place needle as shown and wrap from the point to the eye.

Step 7
Tying the nail knot
Pull the needle through the wraps you just made.  I like to hold the wraps snugly while I pull the needle out.  If your knot loosens up and looks like this, don’t panic, simply push the wraps together with your thumb nails as you gently pull on the leader and the tag end.

Step 8
Cinch down the Nail Knot and snip the tag end.
Place your wraps (nail knot) close to the point at which the leader comes out of the center of the fly line. Once you are happy with your wraps, cinch down on the knot by pulling on the tag end and the leader.
Snip the tag end off and you are ready to fish.  I like to place Pliobond or Aquaseal to this knot to create a smooth transition from the fly line to the leader.
Carefully inspect your line-leader connection often throughout the season.  If you notice the fly line coating starting to crack at this connection, simply snip off the old connection and start over with step one of this post.
The Needle Knot is preferred by many anglers since it pulls through the center of the fly line and does not leave as large of a knot as just a Nail Knot alone.  This knot works very well for most types of freshwater fly fishing.  To tie an “Improved Needle Knot”, simply add a second nail knot above the first nail knot.  This improvement allows the leader to create more friction on the core of the fly line and therefore creates a stronger connection.  I prefer an Albright Knot or Bimini Twist in most saltwater situations and when targeting large salmon, steelhead or trout.
We, along with many guides and serious fly fisherman, strongly discourage the use of the barbed eyes, that are marketed for the line-leader connection.  These work by inserting them into the end of the fly line and tying the leader to the eye.
Another less than desirable line-leader connection is the Braided Loop connectors that work by cinching down (think Chinese Finger Cuffs) on the fly line as tension is applies to the loop, the problem is that they can fail completely without any warning.
With the Needle Knot, Nail Knot, Bimini Twist and Albright Knot you can easily inspect them for damage and replace when necessary.